1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,039 Marianne Koens was horrified by it brought to life. 2 00:00:08,580 --> 00:00:12,220 Presumably by her partner Anton Bergman and her stepdaughter Julie 3 00:00:12,220 --> 00:00:15,060 Bergman. I accidentally got Marianne from the stairs sound. 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,440 I wasn't even home when she was has died. 5 00:00:18,100 --> 00:00:21,380 Miss Bergman is always looking for someone who fills life for her. 6 00:00:21,700 --> 00:00:24,380 She needs a prosthesis, so to speak in order to exist. 7 00:00:24,820 --> 00:00:29,660 Marianne destroys everything. That one Marianne. We have right here 8 00:00:29,660 --> 00:00:32,759 agreed that you are no longer of any use to me went silent and now this. 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,820 That and her love you in that notebook, who was that about? 10 00:00:36,460 --> 00:00:38,080 Sleep together in one room. 11 00:00:38,700 --> 00:00:39,900 To the gynecologist together. 12 00:00:40,260 --> 00:00:41,660 And together in the shower. 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,500 Who says Julie Bergman is talking about this her father has? 14 00:00:44,780 --> 00:00:47,920 What if Marianne knew how stupid Julie was was a trainer with her? 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,800 That little girl would never give up defend it if there is no other explanation 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:52,800 for that blood. 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,300 Could it be that that blood came from is from a blood niche? 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,960 That is not plausible. 19 00:00:58,220 --> 00:00:59,220 But it is possible. 20 00:00:59,460 --> 00:01:01,980 I wish you wouldn't call me anymore Jacob. 21 00:01:04,710 --> 00:01:11,690 Kati. I said 22 00:01:11,690 --> 00:01:13,810 that he had to stop, but he went just move on. 23 00:01:14,390 --> 00:01:16,410 You're sure he figured that out, right? 24 00:01:17,190 --> 00:01:19,470 I only hear one side of it story, eh. 25 00:01:20,030 --> 00:01:21,030 Tough! 26 00:01:22,350 --> 00:01:23,530 Are you the driver? 27 00:01:24,490 --> 00:01:25,490 Yes. 28 00:01:26,070 --> 00:01:27,070 Tough! Tough! 29 00:01:28,510 --> 00:01:30,810 Tough! I was like, a baking arc with child. 30 00:01:36,229 --> 00:01:39,250 Maybe it's not bad that you too meet individually with a therapist 31 00:01:39,250 --> 00:01:40,970 speak. But there's nothing wrong with me. 32 00:01:41,730 --> 00:01:45,510 According to Jan, those photos have been sent with a Twitter account named 33 00:01:45,510 --> 00:01:46,510 Firestart. 34 00:01:48,950 --> 00:01:51,690 We would also ask for the vote a household? 35 00:01:51,930 --> 00:01:53,610 Come on, buy it. Where is that cell phone? 36 00:02:11,790 --> 00:02:16,290 Could you please tell us how? you think it is exactly that evening 37 00:02:16,290 --> 00:02:17,290 gone? 38 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:19,530 Dad had sent everyone away. 39 00:02:20,030 --> 00:02:24,650 Then I went jogging. And after my training I entered through there 40 00:02:24,650 --> 00:02:25,650 gone. 41 00:02:27,230 --> 00:02:28,990 And where was your father at that time? 42 00:02:29,810 --> 00:02:30,910 I don't know. 43 00:02:31,270 --> 00:02:32,550 But not at home. 44 00:02:35,510 --> 00:02:39,870 Okay. Could you please plan the route for us? can you get off please? 45 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,480 That I could be wrong. 46 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,260 After I showered, I felt tired walked downstairs. 47 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,660 Marianne just came out of the cellar. 48 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,300 She was very angry. 49 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,520 She started yelling at me that she was me was fed up. 50 00:03:05,660 --> 00:03:08,140 That it was my fault that her and daddy had so many arguments. 51 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:13,460 And she also said she would like my sport take away. 52 00:03:31,510 --> 00:03:35,350 So that's the position where you last pushed you? 53 00:03:37,490 --> 00:03:38,490 Okay, go ahead. 54 00:03:50,299 --> 00:03:54,320 Mrs. Bergman, now you have her pushed backwards down the stairs, but 55 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,980 according to the findings of doctor Sterks Mrs Koens is therefore bent over backwards 56 00:03:58,980 --> 00:03:59,980 fell down stairs, right? 57 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,620 I have visible bruises in this case established at the points of impact, op 58 00:04:05,620 --> 00:04:08,200 the knees for example. Yes, ma'am Koens has a barbecue in the afternoon 59 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,340 had. So she has tables there stood dragging, she has a lot 60 00:04:11,340 --> 00:04:14,220 drunk. She then bumped into it could have. 61 00:04:14,940 --> 00:04:17,380 That cannot be ruled out, but... 62 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,920 If the victim were backwards cases, then I would have one 63 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,060 diagnosed with occipital fracture. And I didn't do that. 64 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,440 Okay, can we wrap that up then? 65 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:29,720 Thank you. 66 00:04:29,860 --> 00:04:35,020 Mrs. Bergman, you are one hundred percent I'm sure it went just like you did 67 00:04:35,020 --> 00:04:36,020 has stated? 68 00:04:40,820 --> 00:04:44,460 Mr. Dirkens, I would like to briefly say: can my client consult? 69 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,320 Don't let that fool your head investigating judge. 70 00:04:49,780 --> 00:04:51,180 He just tries. 71 00:04:55,980 --> 00:04:56,980 Where's daddy? 72 00:04:58,220 --> 00:05:00,260 His reconstruction will come later. 73 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,420 I haven't had any for over four weeks Dennis heard. 74 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:15,920 That's why you don't either. 75 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:22,480 Where is everyone? 76 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,980 Yes, they are very faded. 77 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:29,860 Give them some time. 78 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:33,580 Nobody believes in me. 79 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:36,820 I believe you. 80 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,420 Because you are like a calf to me. 81 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:46,220 I'll stay with you until all this the back is, okay? 82 00:07:43,849 --> 00:07:45,290 Yes. Yes, it's gone. 83 00:07:46,270 --> 00:07:52,750 Okay, when... Say, when is he sold? 84 00:07:54,790 --> 00:07:56,490 Brown association has been threatened. 85 00:08:03,970 --> 00:08:06,210 It can't possibly be that that mobile phone is gone, can it? 86 00:08:08,570 --> 00:08:10,790 To be... I hope we commit murder of that thing. 87 00:08:15,690 --> 00:08:18,190 What are we going to do if he does has to do with? 88 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,120 I'm afraid Wallace is right. 89 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:49,040 In an alias where those photos of Jean were posted with, the firestarter... That 90 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,440 is the password of Koop aan zijn computer. 91 00:08:53,460 --> 00:08:58,860 I believe Jean has you too lied. 92 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:03,620 Jean has a new lover and he is leaving therefore... You yourself... What should I do? 93 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,600 Coben cooperated well. He has attach a copy of his statement. 94 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:32,400 His laptop is still being physically read, but that is still possible for a few days 95 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,400 last. 96 00:09:33,900 --> 00:09:37,280 If that mobile phone would still turn up, it could will you give us a set? 97 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:39,160 Yes. 98 00:09:39,620 --> 00:09:43,100 And suppose Coben would do something with that have to do, what does that mean 99 00:09:43,100 --> 00:09:46,220 actually? Basically it falls distributing nude images of a 100 00:09:46,220 --> 00:09:49,200 minor subject to child pornography. It victim is fifteen, so... 101 00:09:54,670 --> 00:09:55,870 Koop is also fifteen. 102 00:09:56,310 --> 00:10:01,030 Is every teenager who has a photo of his sweetheart spreads punishable? 103 00:10:02,130 --> 00:10:03,890 We're not writing the law, ma'am. 104 00:10:07,990 --> 00:10:08,990 Come. 105 00:10:10,350 --> 00:10:12,930 If you turn up your cell phone, we'll leave something know. 106 00:10:27,180 --> 00:10:28,180 That's very nice, Mom. 107 00:10:28,580 --> 00:10:29,580 – Thanks. 108 00:10:30,540 --> 00:10:31,540 Mom's recipe, huh? 109 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,900 Yes, mine is less spicy, tho. 110 00:10:35,620 --> 00:10:37,880 Do you see that cadaris? They might want to do another bone. 111 00:10:38,180 --> 00:10:40,320 But they want the apartment first let's see. 112 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,160 Wednesday morning. I then sit at the couch. 113 00:10:43,460 --> 00:10:44,460 What can you do? 114 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,220 I'm right with you often, Mom. 115 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,500 The tour lasts fifteen minutes. 116 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,240 I have fifteen minutes? 117 00:10:55,420 --> 00:10:58,920 Look, if you get there on time, then you are certainly on time for that trial. 118 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:39,480 Where is Claire? 119 00:11:39,860 --> 00:11:42,920 The lawyer has stated that she comes directly to the hall today. 120 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,260 Why? She didn't say that. 121 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:51,840 The accused are allowed to enter. 122 00:12:12,810 --> 00:12:16,970 Mr. Dirkens, you want it today about the reconstruction of the facts 123 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:18,330 according to Mr. Bergman. 124 00:12:18,790 --> 00:12:22,990 That's right, Madam Chairman. And for this we start in the Postelweg. 125 00:12:23,430 --> 00:12:27,590 According to his statement, Mr Bergman there, after the fight with it 126 00:12:27,590 --> 00:12:29,290 victim, started drinking. 127 00:12:29,590 --> 00:12:35,230 Mr. Bergman, you are here at 10 p.m spotted by a cyclist. Can you imagine? 128 00:12:35,230 --> 00:12:36,230 remember that? 129 00:12:36,690 --> 00:12:38,310 The dark for Dirkens. 130 00:12:38,530 --> 00:12:40,390 I don't know anything about their behavior. 131 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,780 That will become clear in a moment, master. 132 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,100 Mr. Dirkes, I would like a moment consult with my clients. 133 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:56,440 Goddammit. Well, that same cyclist is passed here again at 10:45 pm. 134 00:12:57,380 --> 00:12:59,100 But then your car was no longer here. 135 00:12:59,340 --> 00:13:00,680 Do you have an explanation for that? 136 00:13:01,340 --> 00:13:04,820 I don't know anything about that testimony cyclist. Master De Donker, who is PV 137 00:13:04,820 --> 00:13:07,760 landed on my desk yesterday. It is It makes perfect sense that it isn't there yet 138 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,420 included in the file. Or you have kept because it was more convenient for you. We 139 00:13:11,420 --> 00:13:14,480 are here to find the truth, okay? I resisted. 140 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,160 That lamp shone in my eyes. 141 00:13:20,300 --> 00:13:22,500 And then I continued. 142 00:13:23,260 --> 00:13:25,120 And that's why that cyclist doesn't have me seen more. 143 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:30,900 And do you remember exactly where? 144 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:38,460 Okay, so just to clear up any misunderstandings to avoid. You are 100% sure it is 145 00:13:38,460 --> 00:13:39,460 was here? 146 00:13:42,500 --> 00:13:44,860 Yes, I remember those arrows. 147 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:46,520 Okay. 148 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,440 And at two o'clock in the morning you have... called your daughter. 149 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,880 Was that also from this location? 150 00:14:03,850 --> 00:14:08,730 Mr. Bergman was unable or unwilling to answer that question don't give us an answer. 151 00:14:10,150 --> 00:14:12,230 Okay. Mark? 152 00:14:19,550 --> 00:14:25,070 Mr. Bosmans is a cheesemonger who... stated that he attended both Friday and 153 00:14:25,070 --> 00:14:31,490 returns from a Saturday evening local night market. And so, like we 154 00:14:31,490 --> 00:14:32,490 can see... 155 00:14:32,650 --> 00:14:36,650 it's completely impossible for that one market cart to pass on that road 156 00:14:36,650 --> 00:14:38,710 when there is a passenger car on the roadside state. 157 00:14:39,630 --> 00:14:43,910 And then Mr. Bergman has his statement was therefore amended again and us 158 00:14:43,910 --> 00:14:48,130 designated a third location, sort of further on was at a small barrier 159 00:14:48,130 --> 00:14:52,410 that. So I asked him there he could still remember everything well 160 00:14:52,410 --> 00:14:56,450 remember, since he did was quite intoxicated. 161 00:14:57,070 --> 00:15:03,450 And Mr. Bergman then stated that he especially got a lot of stress from me. 162 00:15:04,630 --> 00:15:08,030 Furthermore, Madam Chairman, neither do we at that third location 163 00:15:08,030 --> 00:15:10,990 evidence found that provides an explanation can confirm. 164 00:15:11,310 --> 00:15:13,330 Still contradicting. 165 00:15:13,970 --> 00:15:17,950 Later we drove to the house from Mr. Bergman and Mrs. Koens. 166 00:15:18,190 --> 00:15:21,150 To continue the recomposition there put. 167 00:15:25,850 --> 00:15:27,390 Marian was nowhere here. 168 00:15:29,470 --> 00:15:30,470 There I... 169 00:15:48,810 --> 00:15:54,050 He then has one at 3:15 voicemail message left at the 170 00:15:54,050 --> 00:15:55,050 Mr Pijke. 171 00:15:55,150 --> 00:15:58,170 He then continues with his bottle drank it dry and then fell asleep 172 00:15:58,170 --> 00:16:02,960 cases. And some time later he arrives woke up and went looking 173 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:03,960 for more booze. 174 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:09,320 And only then did he notice that the door to the basement was open. 175 00:16:10,140 --> 00:16:13,680 When exactly that was, he could tell us don't tell either. 176 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,040 If you would like to show us the promotion, please. 177 00:16:31,980 --> 00:16:33,080 I didn't see all that blood at first. 178 00:16:52,740 --> 00:16:54,000 Mr. Bergman, are you okay? 179 00:16:58,030 --> 00:17:04,550 Fortunately, this turned out to be the case in the hospital Mr. Bergman just a panic attack 180 00:17:04,550 --> 00:17:08,589 had received. But nevertheless he the hospital was allowed immediately 181 00:17:08,589 --> 00:17:12,790 left, he refused to return to return to the place that succeeds. 182 00:17:24,500 --> 00:17:27,619 Why was your daddy acting so strange? during that reconstruction? 183 00:17:30,460 --> 00:17:34,880 At first I thought he was a was upset because he was right 184 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,420 woman was lost. But now, I know no more. 185 00:17:37,740 --> 00:17:38,740 What do you think? 186 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,400 Julie, really. 187 00:17:48,260 --> 00:17:50,820 First that thing with that shower yesterday, now this. 188 00:17:52,750 --> 00:17:56,510 If your daddy is lying, then please that means you're lying too. 189 00:18:02,990 --> 00:18:04,670 What am I even doing here? 190 00:18:10,510 --> 00:18:13,370 I went to Dennis's shower stand. 191 00:18:16,710 --> 00:18:19,190 Ah, ça va, it's okay. 192 00:18:21,740 --> 00:18:22,920 I was in love with Dennis. 193 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,580 But he doesn't like me. 194 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:37,040 I thought that's what he wanted, that one shower, but... 195 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,320 You were super angry. 196 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,160 Did your dad know then? 197 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,800 No. 198 00:18:47,780 --> 00:18:48,780 And... 199 00:18:55,450 --> 00:19:00,470 I didn't know about a shower, but I did wanted me to be in love with Dennis. 200 00:19:05,810 --> 00:19:09,410 And that's why they wanted me in boarding school so I couldn't see him anymore. 201 00:19:12,610 --> 00:19:15,150 Dad had convinced them that that was what I would study better. 202 00:19:21,740 --> 00:19:26,220 Has your dad called you yet? night Marian died? 203 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,380 Let's hear it. 204 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:36,080 He was fed up and felt bad after it diarrhea with Marian. 205 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,580 He didn't know then that Marian was already dead was. 206 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,600 Is there actually anything wrong with that? Anton still says? 207 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,420 I think he just has too much drank a lot and he just doesn't know anything 208 00:20:16,420 --> 00:20:19,460 more. But that was good enough, right? That one was just lying in our faces. 209 00:20:21,020 --> 00:20:22,020 Is that true, Nico? 210 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Are you not even convinced? Yes, sorry, but i just can't stand it 211 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,380 people think we are all losers are. 212 00:20:30,260 --> 00:20:32,620 Nowadays you even need an app to make a coffee. 213 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,900 Here. I saw it in the store and... I had to think about it now. 214 00:20:42,730 --> 00:20:43,730 Thank you. 215 00:20:45,730 --> 00:20:47,310 I'll buy a new one myself. 216 00:20:48,070 --> 00:20:50,810 That's a clean thermos, right? You have to don't create them? 217 00:20:53,630 --> 00:20:56,770 You can get in early tonight crawl. Oh, sorry. 218 00:20:57,310 --> 00:20:59,110 Yes, I think that every morning too. 219 00:21:00,850 --> 00:21:02,430 At first I had a rough night with it. 220 00:21:05,530 --> 00:21:08,150 Is that... Is that innate or something? 221 00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:09,390 No, no. 222 00:21:10,150 --> 00:21:11,770 Stupid accident, four years ago. 223 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,320 We actually went for four months traveling around Asia. 224 00:21:16,100 --> 00:21:19,780 After all, it's three weeks in Bali and was hospitalized for two months. 225 00:21:22,540 --> 00:21:26,180 There is a guest there while kitesurfing popped her. Such a showman that had to be done 226 00:21:26,180 --> 00:21:27,180 exaggerate. 227 00:21:29,140 --> 00:21:32,340 He lies with his board towards her back. 228 00:21:33,900 --> 00:21:35,700 Well, he had nothing of course. 229 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,640 Fuck me out. 230 00:21:45,390 --> 00:21:46,870 That shouldn't be the case for you either be easy. 231 00:21:48,510 --> 00:21:51,310 I shouldn't complain. She's the one who is in a wheelchair. 232 00:22:05,710 --> 00:22:06,710 Darling. 233 00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:10,430 Darling. 234 00:23:10,220 --> 00:23:11,900 Are you actually in complete rut? 235 00:23:12,420 --> 00:23:14,280 It's not a movie, is it, Simon? 236 00:23:15,860 --> 00:23:17,560 What good are those bowls? 237 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,320 Here at the... Here at the... Me 238 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:30,000 don't get an opening drop. 239 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,160 Not five children. 240 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,600 No world trip, Simon. Nothing. 241 00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:39,910 What did you want to do? 242 00:23:40,190 --> 00:23:41,290 Watching TV? 243 00:23:42,690 --> 00:23:43,690 Scrabble? 244 00:23:45,910 --> 00:23:47,690 What are you actually doing to me? 245 00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:52,710 Do a real fan. 246 00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:56,690 That's what we've been deducting for a long time have. Come forward. Come forward. 247 00:23:57,150 --> 00:23:58,150 Come, 248 00:23:58,550 --> 00:24:00,510 hop. Come on, grab me. 249 00:24:00,910 --> 00:24:01,910 Yes. 250 00:24:29,450 --> 00:24:32,890 So to be able to walk... I had been up for a long time someone else. 251 00:25:45,940 --> 00:25:47,820 Could that be that she prepared herself? have? 252 00:25:48,180 --> 00:25:49,560 That cannot be ruled out. 253 00:25:49,860 --> 00:25:54,020 But if the victim is backwards of the stairs, then I would have a 254 00:25:54,020 --> 00:25:57,500 expect a fracture on the back of the head. I have not established that here. 255 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,000 Okay, can we roll that off then? Yes. 256 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,080 That Bergman woman. 257 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,440 Are you 100% sure it happened? as you just stated? 258 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,400 Mr. Dirk, I would like to speak to my client can discuss? 259 00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:20,600 Professor Sterks, behind it more logical that Mrs. Koens fell down the stairs 260 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,980 had fallen instead of backwards, as Miss Bergman stated. 261 00:26:26,380 --> 00:26:28,700 Mr. Investigating Judge, makes more sense. 262 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:33,340 Does that mean him, as before said, wasn't 100% sure? 263 00:26:33,740 --> 00:26:39,340 It is always the case with a stair fall master very difficult to make absolute statements 264 00:26:39,340 --> 00:26:40,340 do. 265 00:26:42,740 --> 00:26:46,380 And then I tried to resuscitate her. 266 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,100 But that didn't work. 267 00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:55,360 Okay, would you give us that action? show, please? 268 00:27:06,830 --> 00:27:08,750 And was Mrs. Koens lying like that at the time? 269 00:27:10,610 --> 00:27:12,610 Anyway, I mean on her back. 270 00:27:16,050 --> 00:27:21,610 Okay. Because according to the statement of Mr. Bergman was then lying to Mrs. Koens 271 00:27:21,610 --> 00:27:24,030 he found her on her stomach. 272 00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:29,510 No, that's not possible. 273 00:27:30,550 --> 00:27:33,710 Okay. That is clear then. Thank you. 274 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:42,300 According to Julie Bergman's statement there was blood on her clothes and she is 275 00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:46,740 then put it in the top of the washing machine going to stab. Which seems to be right, because 276 00:27:46,740 --> 00:27:49,700 We actually have those clothes there too found. 277 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,260 Here I changed clothes again to go to that dorm party. 278 00:27:58,100 --> 00:27:59,120 And your shoes? 279 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,880 Were they still on at the time? 280 00:28:20,210 --> 00:28:23,630 No. And where exactly do you have it? pulled out? 281 00:28:25,910 --> 00:28:26,910 Downstairs. 282 00:28:27,550 --> 00:28:28,630 At the bottom of the stairs? 283 00:28:28,990 --> 00:28:32,130 Or... At the basement. At the cellar. Okay. 284 00:28:32,810 --> 00:28:34,650 And why the basement? 285 00:28:36,770 --> 00:28:40,550 They were covered in blood and I wanted to do not dirty the stairs. 286 00:28:42,890 --> 00:28:43,890 Okay. 287 00:28:44,650 --> 00:28:48,930 Because we have one here on the carpet bloody shoe print found of which 288 00:28:48,930 --> 00:28:51,590 the profile matches you perfectly shoes. 289 00:28:53,430 --> 00:28:55,050 Do they have an explanation for that? 290 00:28:58,190 --> 00:28:59,330 That's not possible. 291 00:29:01,610 --> 00:29:02,610 Okay. 292 00:29:03,230 --> 00:29:05,670 Thank you for your cooperation. 293 00:29:08,940 --> 00:29:14,040 According to the bloodstream analyst, there is no doubt about that the shoe prints 294 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,340 that were found in the bedroom, that they come from Julie 295 00:29:17,340 --> 00:29:23,000 Bergman. The only strange thing what is inexplicable, is that we continue in 296 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,640 not a single shoe print in the entire house recovered from Julie Bergman. 297 00:29:27,820 --> 00:29:31,960 And I really don't mean on the stairs the hall, not in the hall itself, anyway, 298 00:29:32,060 --> 00:29:35,540 nowhere. But there are others traces of cleanliness were found. 299 00:29:35,950 --> 00:29:39,350 Shoe prints have been found from Mr. Bergman and from Mr. Dennis 300 00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:41,850 Pijk. And how do you explain that? 301 00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:46,750 The lab has shown with Blue Star that blood has been wiped away. 302 00:29:47,030 --> 00:29:50,190 Julie Bergman's shoeprints are been wiped away. 303 00:29:50,530 --> 00:29:53,050 It certainly seems that way, yes. 304 00:29:53,470 --> 00:29:56,090 And Mr. Bergman's shoe prints and Mr Pijk? 305 00:29:56,510 --> 00:29:59,410 They would have to get there later have been put down. 306 00:30:00,070 --> 00:30:01,070 Why? 307 00:30:01,650 --> 00:30:05,090 There, Madam President, we have it unfortunately no answer. 308 00:30:28,330 --> 00:30:29,850 I'm glad you're not lost anymore you are. 309 00:30:32,650 --> 00:30:34,350 I wasn't mad, Julie. 310 00:30:35,330 --> 00:30:37,370 I just felt that something was off was right. 311 00:30:38,390 --> 00:30:41,890 And I can only defend you if you are honest with me. 312 00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:45,870 Sorry. 313 00:30:50,970 --> 00:30:52,070 Now everything is okay. 314 00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:55,710 Claire? 315 00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:09,300 I'm going to get a bag of cloths. 316 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,400 Ça va? 317 00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:46,500 Yes, 318 00:31:46,940 --> 00:31:53,520 that cannot be put into terms. 319 00:31:54,740 --> 00:31:55,920 I don't understand that either. 320 00:31:57,940 --> 00:31:59,140 She doesn't mean it that way. 321 00:32:00,020 --> 00:32:01,820 Katrien is simply a very sensitive person lady. 322 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,280 Yes. 323 00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:08,040 Maybe I'm too curious, I have to just say. 324 00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:11,440 But something didn't happen or anything, did it? 325 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,420 Yes, it has that kind of atmosphere, I think. 326 00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:20,100 I don't know where you mean it. 327 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,500 Cathy is just a bit more introverted than the most people. 328 00:32:23,820 --> 00:32:25,400 You don't have to look for anything behind that. 329 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,540 I'm still worried. 330 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,740 I'd blow my hair. 331 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,480 Why? 332 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:42,780 Yes, Catherine thinks... Actually thinks she that you chopped her. 333 00:32:50,540 --> 00:32:51,540 Does she achieve that? 334 00:32:52,860 --> 00:32:54,520 Yes, it must be a mistake. 335 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,380 No, don't take it that way. 336 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,280 If Julie lies, that's where she chooses yourself for? 337 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,420 We don't know that anyway. 338 00:33:02,940 --> 00:33:04,780 Her father forces her to do the same. 339 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,720 How? From the box or what? 340 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,780 Yes, if she is lying, it must be to to protect her father. 341 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,460 Why would you do something like that? 342 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,120 Because she has no one else. 343 00:33:14,660 --> 00:33:18,620 Yes, and if you really like someone, Then I would too, I think. 344 00:33:31,980 --> 00:33:33,940 Why are you putting those people here? show around an apartment? 345 00:33:36,700 --> 00:33:37,700 You know mom. 346 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,660 He is afraid that something will go wrong. 347 00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:45,420 You too? 348 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,140 How often do you have that shit in you life, Lubna? 349 00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:56,200 You think you're so fantastic. 350 00:33:56,620 --> 00:33:59,000 But don't forget that it's not for everyone it's so easy. 351 00:34:02,110 --> 00:34:03,110 Easy. 352 00:34:03,630 --> 00:34:06,050 I worked really hard to get where I am I am standing now. 353 00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:07,310 Yes? 354 00:34:07,390 --> 00:34:11,090 And what if everyone knew you were that one cyclist half to his death? And not 355 00:34:11,090 --> 00:34:12,750 me? How many times do I have to do that? thank you? 356 00:34:12,989 --> 00:34:16,530 Dude, everything has changed for me. The day you took the accident on me 357 00:34:16,530 --> 00:34:19,429 have. I had the criminal record. I was the shame of the family. 358 00:34:20,590 --> 00:34:24,150 And yes, I messed up a lot. But was it's all my fault? 359 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,900 I never asked you to take the blame to take you. 360 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:50,420 We also have one at crime scenes reconstruction done on the basis of 361 00:34:50,420 --> 00:34:55,820 observations from our experts compare with the reconstructions of the 362 00:34:55,820 --> 00:34:56,820 accused. 363 00:34:58,510 --> 00:35:03,190 We start in the living room, true according to our findings 364 00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:07,310 victim twice head has been hit. 365 00:35:09,470 --> 00:35:12,790 The perpetrator has the victim probably approached from behind. 366 00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:16,750 The moment the victim does something heard, she turned around. 367 00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:18,530 Gentlemen, can we just do that? 368 00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:21,710 Thank you. 369 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,660 That's supposedly a murder weapon. True that then? 370 00:35:30,860 --> 00:35:32,840 That has not yet been found. 371 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:34,960 Keep looking, I would say. 372 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,540 There is definitely blood at this location recovered, right? 373 00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:44,480 The victim probably has one lay on the ground for a while, where they 374 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,420 has a small amount of blood lost. 375 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:50,800 After which she was lifted by two persons. Erik, can we take that action? 376 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,980 show me, please? 377 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:06,460 A trace of blood was found that led to that one 378 00:36:06,460 --> 00:36:10,860 cellar door. And there was a bigger one too blood stain formed. 379 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,480 What can you deduce from that? 380 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,740 That the body focuses on that for a longer period of time found place. 381 00:36:17,140 --> 00:36:18,620 And is there an explanation for that? 382 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:26,420 Presumably the cellar door was closed and the perpetrators had to be there for a while 383 00:36:26,420 --> 00:36:28,900 wait with the body until that door was open. 384 00:36:31,790 --> 00:36:35,970 Next is the body of Mrs Koens thrown down the stairs. 385 00:36:36,890 --> 00:36:41,430 According to the findings of the medical examiner happened this forehead. 386 00:36:45,630 --> 00:36:51,790 For what happened next, we actually fully rely on the 387 00:36:51,790 --> 00:36:56,770 findings of professor Sterks, who as said before... 388 00:36:57,940 --> 00:37:02,840 pinpoint hemorrhages have been found in the eyelids and the only explanation we 389 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:09,240 so I can think of that for that victim after the stair fall actually 390 00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:14,980 was alive and then by the perpetrators choked with one 391 00:37:14,980 --> 00:37:16,780 plastic bag. 392 00:37:26,540 --> 00:37:30,380 It is therefore true that we are next have Mrs. Koens there in the morning 393 00:37:30,380 --> 00:37:31,380 found. 394 00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:32,900 Yes. 395 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,960 In the video, Julie Bergman said that she victim had found on the back. 396 00:37:37,340 --> 00:37:41,080 Mr. Bergman said on the stomach. You show here also on the stomach? 397 00:37:41,740 --> 00:37:45,880 Beats. The autopsy showed that Mrs Koens has longer on her stomach 398 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,560 located. While her injuries demonstrating that she is actually on her back 399 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,240 ended up. That's why we suspect so the perpetrator confronts it 400 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:55,280 victim could not handle. 401 00:37:55,900 --> 00:38:00,160 who is on his stomach for that reason turned to continue with the facts 402 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,280 can commit. 403 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,280 Okay, thank you, Mr. Dirkens. 404 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,620 Mr. Bergman, stand up for once. 405 00:38:09,580 --> 00:38:15,040 After seeing this technical... reconstruction anything to add to it 406 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,040 your statement? 407 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,360 No, Madam Chairman. 408 00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:22,020 But I would like to say that I... wasn't there that night. 409 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,160 Thank you, Mr. Bergman, but that was the question is not. 410 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,460 Sit there. Miss Bergman states one turn straight. 411 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,700 Do you have anything to add after the reconstruction? 412 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,000 Miss Bergman, please stand up please. 413 00:38:55,790 --> 00:38:57,950 I deeply regret what happened all happened. 414 00:39:03,230 --> 00:39:06,570 Everything happened just like the police did has shown. 415 00:39:10,230 --> 00:39:11,230 Dad. 416 00:39:15,630 --> 00:39:19,390 Dad has with an iron bar on it Marianne's head was hit. 417 00:39:20,350 --> 00:39:21,990 And I helped him. 418 00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:25,220 But that's not true. No, it isn't true. 419 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,820 Mr. Bergman, we're going to take it easy. Julie, why are you doing that? Sir 420 00:39:27,820 --> 00:39:28,820 Bergman, sit down. 421 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:33,520 Sit down. 422 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,560 Julie. 423 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,960 Julie. Julie, please. 424 00:39:41,940 --> 00:39:42,940 Sorry, mom. 425 00:39:44,180 --> 00:39:45,180 Miss Bergman. 426 00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:48,980 You know what you're doing now... 427 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,820 I'm here to say that you are diametrically opposed against your previous statement. 428 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:55,880 Yes. 429 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,400 Sully, Sully, come on. 430 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,980 Mr. Bergman, please. It's for the last time I say it. Calm down. 431 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:22,860 And now he doesn't even confess to you. 432 00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:24,100 Yes, omg. 433 00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:26,260 But we had cannon there too be painful. 434 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,540 How can you do something like that for two years? conceal. 435 00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:33,760 Do you know what struck me most? That he seemed genuinely surprised to Anton. 436 00:40:34,420 --> 00:40:35,460 Yes, no, indeed. 437 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,960 Would he ever recommend us to our daughter? put in the bag? 438 00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:43,920 What are you giving me now? Oh, oh, sorry. It was a really long day. 439 00:40:46,020 --> 00:40:47,020 I have a really good idea. 440 00:40:48,260 --> 00:40:49,260 Okay. Yes. 441 00:40:49,770 --> 00:40:51,730 But if I'm going to tell you, you go probably say no. 442 00:40:52,170 --> 00:40:53,870 Then maybe it's not such a good thing after all idea. 443 00:40:54,190 --> 00:40:55,190 Yes. 444 00:40:55,590 --> 00:40:57,210 I want to take you somewhere. 445 00:41:00,190 --> 00:41:04,090 I have to let you know something sometimes. 446 00:41:04,650 --> 00:41:05,650 So you're coming along? 447 00:41:07,570 --> 00:41:08,570 I think so. 448 00:42:38,420 --> 00:42:39,420 Are you okay? 449 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,080 Are you okay? 450 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,900 Well, it's like my bad knee. 451 00:42:49,860 --> 00:42:51,180 Are you afraid of me? 452 00:42:59,220 --> 00:43:03,820 What you told Vanessa about me, that hurt me. 453 00:43:07,630 --> 00:43:12,050 What happened between us and what you of it, that's two total 454 00:43:12,050 --> 00:43:13,050 different things. 455 00:43:14,310 --> 00:43:16,090 And I'm a little worried. 456 00:43:17,010 --> 00:43:19,790 I think you need help. 457 00:43:20,570 --> 00:43:21,570 What? 458 00:43:22,310 --> 00:43:24,170 I? No, no. 459 00:43:24,430 --> 00:43:28,030 What you have is extreme fear of commitment. 460 00:43:29,150 --> 00:43:30,710 You see bogeymen everywhere. 461 00:43:31,470 --> 00:43:34,750 And especially in people who want it to be good for you. 462 00:43:35,110 --> 00:43:36,110 No, no. 463 00:43:37,130 --> 00:43:38,290 I want to help you. 464 00:43:38,970 --> 00:43:42,270 But you have to stop this kind of thing to say about me. 465 00:43:44,030 --> 00:43:46,050 Please. I can't do that. 466 00:43:47,230 --> 00:43:48,530 I feel something for you. 467 00:43:49,410 --> 00:43:52,510 I've never had that happen to anyone before felt. 468 00:44:49,290 --> 00:44:53,190 A major surprise today on this sixth day of the assize trial 469 00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:58,210 around the Cinderella murder. Such a big one twist, so late in the process, it has to be 470 00:44:58,210 --> 00:45:01,390 also for lawyer Claire Verlinde be a slap in the face. 471 00:45:01,590 --> 00:45:06,110 Because how do you deal with one as a lawyer? client you have had for two years 472 00:45:06,110 --> 00:45:10,690 lied to? And how do you proceed with you? defense? We will reply soon 473 00:45:10,690 --> 00:45:13,890 know, because tomorrow the lawyers will hold their closing arguments. 474 00:45:14,220 --> 00:45:17,880 And then it's up to the jury to decide to pass judgment on the guilt or 475 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,860 innocence of both accused. 476 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:58,960 Are you still lost? 477 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,000 I don't want to lie to you. 478 00:46:05,940 --> 00:46:07,640 I want to protect daddy. Sorry. 479 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,080 I didn't even know such a thing existed. 480 00:46:27,690 --> 00:46:28,609 Zop, eh? 481 00:46:28,610 --> 00:46:30,170 One pays for an hour. 482 00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:32,110 Everything can be broken. 483 00:46:32,350 --> 00:46:33,350 Real? 484 00:47:50,970 --> 00:47:51,970 Oh shit. 485 00:47:52,450 --> 00:47:53,970 I still want to measure that. 486 00:47:55,370 --> 00:47:56,650 You'll soon scare me. 487 00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:58,510 Thank you. 488 00:48:08,750 --> 00:48:11,630 Imagine someone giving you this hits the head. 489 00:48:18,990 --> 00:48:19,990 No, I stink. 490 00:48:21,490 --> 00:48:25,490 It's really made of mouse. 491 00:48:27,390 --> 00:48:28,390 Ooh, yes. 492 00:48:30,910 --> 00:48:35,210 What was that? 493 00:48:39,110 --> 00:48:42,970 Shit, sorry, that was... That was it not, yes. 494 00:48:43,590 --> 00:48:46,090 It's okay, but I didn't really have that thought. 495 00:48:47,950 --> 00:48:48,950 I have to go home. 496 00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:51,950 Could you? 497 00:48:55,350 --> 00:48:56,610 Let me know how much that was. 498 00:49:02,850 --> 00:49:03,850 Hey. 499 00:49:18,990 --> 00:49:23,110 The other day, I was thinking... If you still want to, at least. 500 00:49:25,770 --> 00:49:28,250 That tour tomorrow, would that work? 501 00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:36,630 Mom... It is 502 00:49:36,630 --> 00:49:39,750 on ground floor. 503 00:49:40,030 --> 00:49:43,910 I am not more accessible myself than there is something, then to Sarah. 504 00:49:44,170 --> 00:49:45,170 Okay? 505 00:49:45,610 --> 00:49:46,610 But really? 506 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,120 Esther? 507 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,720 Esther? 508 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:06,880 Esther! 509 00:50:45,260 --> 00:50:46,260 Hey honey! 510 00:51:54,090 --> 00:51:55,090 *** 511 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,560 Julie? – Yes? 512 00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:01,580 We went to that party. 513 00:54:03,860 --> 00:54:07,240 I argued with Marianne. 514 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,200 I was so angry. 515 00:54:11,740 --> 00:54:15,400 I said, I don't know, things that... 516 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:21,520 I just wanted to hear it, honey. 517 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:23,760 Dad, are you fed up? 518 00:54:29,390 --> 00:54:30,570 I like Marjan. 519 00:54:34,970 --> 00:54:38,050 Sometimes I can be so... 520 00:54:38,050 --> 00:54:46,350 Sorry, 521 00:54:46,410 --> 00:54:47,450 I am sawing. 522 00:54:47,690 --> 00:54:51,550 I... I'm always sawing. 523 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:11,920 later.